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Sincerely, I don´t know which Puerto Vallarta you´re talking about... I live here 10 months a year since Jan 2007 and I have never had any problem, and I have never seen or heard about any situation with me or any friend that should make me feel unsafe. Of course, don´t walk around at night in El Pitillal, but you can walk downtown with zero problems. I don´t know of anyone that has had his house robbed, but it could happen as it can happen in the US.
Getting into a place (shop, restaurant, church!) and looking for a seat close to the door?! I have never listened to anything more ridiculous!! If you´re in an area whre drug dealers operate (Las Palmas, Ixtapa) maybe... but in any of the "tourist" areas of the Bay that sounds like you are talking about Ciudad Juarez.
you said that Mexico is more dangerous than 5 years ago... I wouldn´t generalize, you can say that for Monterrey, all border cities, Chihuahua and that´s it. In fact, since 2006 kidnappings have reduced by more than 50% in Mexico City (and remember that they are never to tourists).
There has been a rise in small robberies in popular areas of the bay, like Pitillal, Palmas, etc but mainly due to the financial crisis that started in 2008. There is a rise in unemployment and that is a concern for the authorities here, but so far this has not affected any tourist area.
There have been a couple of big "fights" downtown, that have not been publicized, and that are related to the increase of the Mexican tourism arriving to Vallarta (record year 2010) and no one got harmed (teenagers just doing same as they do in the US).
By that same comparison, we should avoid anyone getting close to any school in the US as they could get shot in one of those killing-sprees that happen quite often by the way.
I would never go to any State of the northern part of Mexico (not now), but the rest of the country, including Mexico City, which I visit twice a month, looks as safe as it was, with the obvious precautions that everyone should have (same as in New York, etc).
Getting into a place (shop, restaurant, church!) and looking for a seat close to the door?! I have never listened to anything more ridiculous!! If you´re in an area whre drug dealers operate (Las Palmas, Ixtapa) maybe... but in any of the "tourist" areas of the Bay that sounds like you are talking about Ciudad Juarez.
you said that Mexico is more dangerous than 5 years ago... I wouldn´t generalize, you can say that for Monterrey, all border cities, Chihuahua and that´s it. In fact, since 2006 kidnappings have reduced by more than 50% in Mexico City (and remember that they are never to tourists).
There has been a rise in small robberies in popular areas of the bay, like Pitillal, Palmas, etc but mainly due to the financial crisis that started in 2008. There is a rise in unemployment and that is a concern for the authorities here, but so far this has not affected any tourist area.
There have been a couple of big "fights" downtown, that have not been publicized, and that are related to the increase of the Mexican tourism arriving to Vallarta (record year 2010) and no one got harmed (teenagers just doing same as they do in the US).
By that same comparison, we should avoid anyone getting close to any school in the US as they could get shot in one of those killing-sprees that happen quite often by the way.
I would never go to any State of the northern part of Mexico (not now), but the rest of the country, including Mexico City, which I visit twice a month, looks as safe as it was, with the obvious precautions that everyone should have (same as in New York, etc).
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My point of view about Puerto Vallarta´s security is that we are in a medium-sized city and everyone should take the same security measures as you would in a city of this size. There is no extra threat to tourists or to local residents, I´ve been living here since Feb 2007 and never had any problem or know about someone having it (apart from what you read in the local newspapers)...
All my employees and their families have not had any poblem either. Please do not scare people with "dark" stories because there is nothing serious going on apart the normal crimes, robberies, etc of a medium-sized city
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This article appeared May, 2009, for the on-line publication banderasnews.com.
With all due respect are you Linda Ellerbee, the original writer of this article?
The way your post is written you give people the impression that it is your own writing.
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i believe we are one of the longest stayed owners in the condominiums Girasol Sur . my parents where driving down every year for at least 10-15 yrs and never had any problems , there's is a long story about there first trip and went off the beaten path and never went through customs going into Mexico as the took a turn off ( was there mistake they stayed for 5 months had a small problem coming back but made it and the border patrol was all but polite as they had no tourist papers )anyway i believe that people are just misinformed . im sure crime happens in puerto vallarta , the reality is it happens everywhere , some worse than others , and peoples just tend to lump in all of Mexico as just bad, crime, killings , drug cartels, blah blah blah. and ask me aren't you scared to go to Mexico ,? all i can do is laugh at them , i tell them well im not going to vacation on the drug cartels doorstep? or where all the all the crime is happening ....
and then i tell then puerto vallarta is a safer place to live than where i live in Manitoba ,looking forward to retirement in PV ..
and will continue to travel ( i fly every year airfare is much cheaper these days and so does my mother , father past away 10 yrs ago )
I AM A MEXICAN FROM THE NORTH !!
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That is exactly what I was willing to explain (maybe with the wrong words), do the same as you would do back home, there is not an extraordinary threat here, it´s just as safe or unsafe as it is any other city in the US or Western Europe.
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Sincerely, I don´t know which Puerto Vallarta you´re talking about... I live here 10 months a year since Jan 2007 and I have never had any problem, and I have never seen or heard about any situation with me or any friend that should make me feel unsafe. Of course, don´t walk around at night in El Pitillal, but you can walk downtown with zero problems. I don´t know of anyone that has had his house robbed, but it could happen as it can happen in the US.
You are kidding right? If you want to believe it is all popcorn farts and puppy dog tails, go right ahead. You are the typical newbie ex-pat in PV that is convinced they have moved to Paradise and nothing bad will ever happen.
YA THINK?but it could happen as it can happen in the US.
Do I think PV is safe for the average tourist, sure I do or I would not have been going there for 20+ years. I would not have owned a business down there for 12 years. BUT, as Chuck said you have to use safety precautions, just as you do at home. My advice to everyone has always been and always will be (until things change radically). Don't walk on dark, deserted streets at night (anywhere, even downtown), don't walk on the beach after dark, don't flash/carry large amounts of money, leave the Rolex and diamond tennis bracelet at home, don't drink so much that you are oblivious to what is going on around you, use caution and look around when using an ATM. Those are same things I would hope people do at home anyway.
PV has her charm and her warm and friendly people that capture your heart and draw you back but she's not perfect.
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Getting into a place (shop, restaurant, church!) and looking for a seat close to the door?! I have never listened to anything more ridiculous!! If you´re in an area whre drug dealers operate (Las Palmas, Ixtapa) maybe... but in any of the "tourist" areas of the Bay that sounds like you are talking about Ciudad Juarez.
you said that Mexico is more dangerous than 5 years ago... I wouldn´t generalize, you can say that for Monterrey, all border cities, Chihuahua and that´s it. In fact, since 2006 kidnappings have reduced by more than 50% in Mexico City (and remember that they are never to tourists).
There has been a rise in small robberies in popular areas of the bay, like Pitillal, Palmas, etc but mainly due to the financial crisis that started in 2008. There is a rise in unemployment and that is a concern for the authorities here, but so far this has not affected any tourist area.
There have been a couple of big "fights" downtown, that have not been publicized, and that are related to the increase of the Mexican tourism arriving to Vallarta (record year 2010) and no one got harmed (teenagers just doing same as they do in the US).
By that same comparison, we should avoid anyone getting close to any school in the US as they could get shot in one of those killing-sprees that happen quite often by the way.
I would never go to any State of the northern part of Mexico (not now), but the rest of the country, including Mexico City, which I visit twice a month, looks as safe as it was, with the obvious precautions that everyone should have (same as in New York, etc).
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Statistics:Posted by charlieb — Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:10 am
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I have had those feelings a couple of times in PV and only once did I honestly feel that I was in a place I didn't want to be in. However, it wasn't anything that could not have happened had I been walking down any dimly lit street in the states. The hotel I was staying at just happened to be on one of the those streets that is not very well lit, so it wasn't like I had a choice to get there any other way. I had left my broom in the room so I couldn't fly in.
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Mexico is getting bad and it is not as safe like it was even 5 years ago. I use to drive all over day and night before but sorry not any more.
If anyone tells you different they are either liars or just plane stupid!
Mexico is a big country and you are making a generalization about the country as a whole. You must own a business in one of the unsafe areas the way you are trying to beat this fact into everyone's head. Why don't you go find a website in the city and state that you supposedly own a business and post your the sky is falling propaganda there. If anyone tells you different they are either liars or just plane stupid!
The US state department has yet to issue a travel warning or a travel advisory for the state of Jalisco or the city of Puerto Vallarta. So your point is???? In case you are lost....this is a Puerto Vallarta website.
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