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Parasailing Cost?

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:09 am
by ronald
I've watched them for years, to chicken to try it, but now my oldest daughter (25) who is coming with us says she wants to do the Parasailing thing. I showed her pictures of the lady hanging from the crane last January next to the Melia, but she shrugs that off so. Anyway, how much do they charge for this 'adventure'?

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:16 am
by winterpegman
It can vary, but if you budget 30.00 - 35.00 U.S. ya won't be far off the mark. Never more than 35.00 though. Para-Sailing (not unlike many things in Mexico!) can be somewhat negotiable, but not always.

I've done it, and I've watched HUNDREDS of people do it over the years. I have a fear of heights as well..and still thouroughly enjoyed it!

Go see Andres and Badua in front of La Carreta. I know them, and I trust them.

Re: Parasailing Cost?

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:49 am
by stew
ronald wrote:I've watched them for years, to chicken to try it, but now my oldest daughter (25) who is coming with us says she wants to do the Parasailing thing. I showed her pictures of the lady hanging from the crane last January next to the Melia, but she shrugs that off so. Anyway, how much do they charge for this 'adventure'?
Maybe your life. It is statistically one of the most dangerous sports. I personally knew 3 people who were killed parasailing & have seen literally dozens of serious injuries.The beaches are much too crowded, the boats & equipment not well maintained & few have a spotter in the boat. I have seen guys dumped in the bay & left to swim in. I also have seen them land on top of palapas & sun bathers. If you must do it at least go with some one that has a spotter in the boat. Last Xmas in Zihuatanejo (not nearly as crowded as PV) a friend of mine was swimming the bay with a "spotter" balloon in tow when he was hit by a parasail tow boat & was cut in half dead before getting out of the Water. The Nephew of Gloria Whiting, owner of Los Cuatro Vientos Hotel on Matamotas was killed in PV parasailing as was my amigo Jose Gutieres.

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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:08 pm
by rossk
I agree. My boss' wife suffered permanent injuries parasailing in Ixtapa several years ago from an uncontrolled landing, and I have seen many posts here and elsewhere attesting to the dangers involved. If the person who gave the links showing the parasailing accident pictures reads this, I would appreciate your posting the link(s) again.

Nothing like seeing parasails hanging from construction cranes, hotel balconies and trees to make you think twice.

btw, I've parasailed on Maui and had a great time, but US and Mexican parasailing standards are worlds apart. I love PV and am counting down the days til next April, but I'll parasail elsewhere.

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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:39 pm
by chico98
how risky it is
some forty years ago my father tried and was draged into the surf before he got into the air in front of el dorado on los muertos beach
he is alright

have seen many mishaps with these parasailors over those many years
even with those bungy at the cliff rest
and those four wheeler bike
one went over the cliff into the river cuale up the road to buenas aires
those big yellow truck jeeps are a mistake for the hwy, have seen them rollover and no safety

but all still keep coming back for more adventure
they are more free to do than the regulations up north
safety is not a priority
money is
same holds true for drivers
they try to get you to hit them so they can collect
construction workers
rests..

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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:00 am
by rcracing
we have used the group of guys on los muertos beach...down near burros bar 5 times. they generally stick out because they all have hawaiian print shorts on. the price has usually started at $35each but you can negotiate to get 2 for $50. never a problem, great ride, and not nearly as scary as it looks....a beautiful view actually.

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:37 pm
by chuck
A good group exists on the beach infront of the GCP. Used them several tlimes and I really don't like heights, but it was really fun and not scarey. They take off from the beach and rop you like a feather right were you took off. If the wind is blowing right, you will hang a few minutes above the big palapa infront of the hotel. $30-35usd :-)4

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 6:15 pm
by tojol57
yes the guys on the beach by the GCP are excellent... there have only been a few mishaps when people wouldn't listen to the whistle... but they survived without incident... just a little spookey at the time...

have a great time...

tom

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:05 pm
by BJohnson
Dangerous - a couple I heard about lost a little girl last year - 8 years old. Dad made her go when she didn't want to - bet he's messed up now. One couple I knew lost their teenage son when the line broke.

I did this myself several years ago - when I took off, the harness wasn't properly attached, I was falling out the whole way up - totally freaked me out. Finally got it situated under me, then on the way back I was supposed to look for the guy on the beach whistling and waving a blue thing - then I should pull the cord and come down - seemed easy enough.

However, when the time came there were like a million guys waving blue things and whistling all up and down the beaches - I had no idea which one was my guy - freaked out again, I just pulled the cord. Ended up landing in the right spot, but still...

My wife had a lot of trouble pulling the cord hard enough - it really took some muscle. Her shoulder hurt the rest of the vacation. Don't think I'll try it again after that - especially after hearing the stories the past few years about accidents.

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:49 pm
by stew
tojol57 wrote:yes the guys on the beach by the GCP are excellent... there have only been a few mishaps when people wouldn't listen to the whistle... but they survived without incident... just a little spookey at the time...

have a great time...

tom
Tom I hate to disagree with you but you are WRONG. I seriously doubt that GCP is a guaranteer of safety for that Parasail outfit. It is very dangerous with lots if deaths & Injuries, Take a trip up to Los Cuatro Vientos & talk to Gloria Whiting about her nephew's tragic death! Or go visit the widow & orphan children of Juan Gutienerres at their Taco stand in San Blas. I can take you to the grave of Jon Phillips who was dropped by his tow boat then sliced in half by the same boat. You are very knowledgeable about many things but you are out of your element on this subject. Please do not encourage people to take such risks!

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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:38 am
by carolb1
Ok, I just had to answer. A few years ago, myself, daughter and son in law went. We were staying @ Paradise Village that time. We decided to go, only because they actually winched you off of a boat and then back onto the boat. I felt much safer. I have really bad knees, so there was no way I was going to parasail off the beach. I have to admit, I was scared as He___, but went anyway. It was a great experience, but I wouldn't do it again. I kept thinking what if this rope breaks. The nice thing about it was, you also got a boat ride with the trip. There was another couple with us, so there was actually 5 that went up.

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:39 am
by winterpegman
This could potentially continue forever, ad nauseum.

Have there been accidents? Yes. Have there been deaths? Yes. Have there been WAY more uneventful experiences? YES.

Let's look at driving a motor vehicle anywhere shall we? Have there been accidents? Yes. Have there been deaths? Yes. Have there been WAY more uneventful experiences? YES.

Flying - same.

Mountain Climbing - same

Bungee Jumping - same

Para-Sailing - same

It goes on and on. Some of "us" have very deep FEELINGS on this issue, and I do not attempt to detract from them. But somewhere along the line, it comes down to numbers. Para-Sailing is a risk. Are you willing to accept that risk prior to, and during the event? If so, off you go, you'll LIKELY be one of the thousands of people that have a great time, but know that you may not be. Odds ARE in your favour though.

I have done it, I'm scared of heights, and I'd do it again. The ONLY mishaps I've seen occur with Andres' "bunch" in front of La Carreta is related to the person NOT LISTENING to the instructions that are given. Granted I haven't seen every "flight", but I've seen enough over the years to CONFIDENTLY say that I trust them.

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:02 am
by stew
winterpegman wrote:This could potentially continue forever, ad nauseum.

Have there been accidents? Yes. Have there been deaths? Yes. Have there been WAY more uneventful experiences? YES.

Let's look at driving a motor vehicle anywhere shall we? Have there been accidents? Yes. Have there been deaths? Yes. Have there been WAY more uneventful experiences? YES.

Flying - same.

Mountain Climbing - same

Bungee Jumping - same

Para-Sailing - same

It goes on and on. Some of "us" have very deep FEELINGS on this issue, and I do not attempt to detract from them. But somewhere along the line, it comes down to numbers. Para-Sailing is a risk. Are you willing to accept that risk prior to, and during the event? If so, off you go, you'll LIKELY be one of the thousands of people that have a great time, but know that you may not be. Odds ARE in your favour though.

I have done it, I'm scared of heights, and I'd do it again. The ONLY mishaps I've seen occur with Andres' "bunch" in front of La Carreta is related to the person NOT LISTENING to the instructions that are given. Granted I haven't seen every "flight", but I've seen enough over the years to CONFIDENTLY say that I trust them.

Of all you list only Bugee jumping is a real comparision. Driving & flying are Highly regulated in both manufactor, testing of equipment, drivers/pilots abilities both maual & written. In addition both are highly regulated activites with lots of laws including speeding, seat belts Etc. Also both are neccassary to modern life. Moutain Climbing also reguires extensive training & expensive equpiment. Only Bungee & Para sail are virtually unregulateed at least in Mexico. The boats often stall due to poor mantiance & lack of fuel. Threw in no training & inadequte staffing in the mix. To suggest that it is riders own fault for not listening to instructions is assanine. I know of no other "sport" that does not test new comers before the real thing. I think back to the several hours I got in both class room & in the pool before I was allowed to go on my first open water SCUBA dive. The thirty seconds of "Training" by Parasail operations is a joke. Add in the normal amount of drinking on the beach & you have a recipe for a real tragedy! It is a true death wish to go up without a"spoter" in the boat yet 90% do this. At least with bungee jumping your weight is calculated & the proper tension is hopfuly applied to the cords & attachments. No such consideration is given with Parasailing. I submit that while many particapate with out serious injury many players of Russiam roulete escape with no injuries but I would never advise others to try it either! I might suggest to you that once you have a loved one injured &/or killed at this "sport" you attitude will havea change.

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:15 pm
by winterpegman
You'd be hard pressed to find "regulated" mountain climbing! You mention that the equipment itself is when manufactured, well so are the boats, motors etc.

The point wasn't made to compare the specific regulations to each other. It was made to demonstrate the numbers, and the odds. Despite driver's license requirements, laws/rules of the road, many accidents and deaths occur, even WITH all the "regulation". I likely WOULD feel differently had I lost someone I cared about. Just as you wouldn't (likely), if you HADN'T lost someone.

You condemn the whole industry, when there ARE people running their individual para-sailing operations as safely as one could expect.

That is what I take issue with. You are not speaking untruths, it IS a dangerous activity. But again, odds are in the favour of the customer, that they'll have an "uneventful" "trip".

I also take issue with condemning the industry as a whole, as Andres and the rest of the "beach boys", have become my friends over the years, so in essence, you are slighting them, and that bothers me. Feel free (obligated even) to "slam" any individual para-sailing operations, but please, there are many operators that take great care in what they do, and shouldn't be painted with the same brush.

"asinine" to suggest that people don't follow instructions? Let me explain what IS asinine...Generalizing about a whole industry.

EVERY single "mishap" I've witnessed with para-sailers has been customer error. Read that again...EVERY single one. Again, I haven't seen every take off and landing ever recorded, but then, nor have you. I of course realise that some of the accidents are not customer error.

I will tell you, that I have witnessed LITERALLY hundreds of of PS take-offs and landings over 13 years.

ALL along Los Muertos beach. Not a "bad" record I'd say.

As far as the "30 second" training goes, I have seen the boys take several minutes to explain their directions, and I've seen significantly less. This isn't rocket science. Pull when you're supposed to, let go when you're supposed to. Call me arrogant, but I don't need to hear that said much differently. It really doesn't require much more than that. The exception to this is that they really should advise the clients of what to do if the rope breaks (an infrequent occurance), or in the event of the boat/motor stopping.

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:22 pm
by stew
Sorry bit we will forever disagree on this issue.Because you like someone does not make them a good safe operation. Statisticly there is no more dangerous activity in Mexico That is a fact! So keep your head in the sand if you must, but please do not encourge others to do so. I'm done debating you!
P.S.
Mountain climbling is VERY Regulated requiring normaly permints. often guides & equpiment inspection.

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:39 pm
by winterpegman
oops...Was trying to quote your comment, and hit "modify" by accident! Sorry about that.

Anyway, here is my response -

C'mon Stew...get realistic at least. I'VE been mountain climbing..the REAL deal..not a lovely hike in the mountains/hills...there was no paperwork to do, I'm sad to say, off we went. Who said anything about "because I like someone that makes them safe"??? Please do not attempt to read things between the lines, you're not good at it.

Be "done" all you like. You generalize, and you're emotional about the subject. Therefore, you are likely more biased than I.

Now I am done with YOU. "Head in the sand" LMAO Now that's "the kettle callin' the pot black" there isn't it!

And one last point - I will encourage ANYONE to do any activity I'd do myself. I trust the beach boys with MY life, and the lives of my loved ones. You wouldn't. That is your perrogative. Just as my encouraging anyone to participate, is mine. If that makes me an "evil" person in your eyes, so be it. I am basing my thoughts on personal experience with a SPECIFIC group that does PS. I can't speak to the whole industry, as I haven't para-sailed with all of them, and nor have I watched them as closely as Andres. Oh ya...nor have you! Your opinion is based on generalizing. I have no vested interest in their business either, by the way.

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:40 pm
by chuck
This happens to be one of those things that carry a bit of risk with it. If you want to try this sport check out the vendor and ask people who have recently used their service. I think that is why Tom and I think the group at the GCP are OK. We have both been there >10 times. I have also asked to inspect the lines and harnesses prior to contracting with them.

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:24 am
by tojol57
ok People People People, before we rally the troups and start a small range war on words here... each and every day you take a risk with your life. How many of you take Lipitor, or some other medican for your colesteral? How many of you commute to work each and every day in your 1993 Buick or whatever that your ex-wife let you have to survive with. How many remember the little Ford Pinto fire bomb? HELLO PEOPLE... you can walk out your front door and never come home.. why because some bone head that day decided to cross the center line, or if you live in Iowa and don't know how to drive in snow and Ice, or the pilot of your aircraft needed one more cocktail before take off, or how about landing a plane on a 4300 ft runway when your plane needs 5400 ft tell that to the little boy killed in chicago riding with mom and dad on the freeway..i am sure that ALL the regulations for air safety were totally met right... i mean the pilots were right, the tower were right, the mechanics were right (oh that is right the reverse thrusters didn't deploy right either), i think i have thrown a big enough hissy fit here... sorry stew... but life is a gamble ... it is your choice to make deicisions on how you live your life... if you want to bury your head in the sand fine, if you want to soar with the birds by a rope then so be it...

sorry for ranting and raving.. but winterpegman is right... you make choices in this world... and all the regulations in this world can't make you safe, it slows things down....

8) Tom :evil:

I started the post, and I just wanted to know the going rate

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 3:13 am
by ronald
So can I assume the going rate is about Thirty Five Bucks?

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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 6:17 am
by Jennybean
35 USD, give or take. Around 350 pesos is what I've seen/heard in Oct/Nov.