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Puerto Vallarta Forum (PV Bulletin Board)Exchange information on this popular beach destination, tips, recommendations, warnings, anything that'll help other Puerto Vallarta fans, enjoy a more memorable trip to this destination in Jalisco, Mexico. More info on our Facebook Page too. 2009-01-26T20:30:07 https://www.puertovallarta.net/forum/app.php/feed/topic/16001 2009-01-26T20:30:072009-01-26T20:30:07 https://www.puertovallarta.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16001&p=97688#p97688 <![CDATA[Conspiracy Stuff]]>

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2009-01-24T19:27:082009-01-24T19:27:08 https://www.puertovallarta.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16001&p=97627#p97627 <![CDATA[Congratulations USA!]]> Statistics:Posted by davilin — Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:27 pm


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you can ban me for this if you would like, I find it insulting that people (especially americans) think that the American government had something to do with 9/11.<snip> you want to turn this forum into a political forum, your making a mistake.
Ban? Why?

Totally in agreement with your statement, I've heard the stupid theory from both US citizens and from foreigners and I've never believed it. There is even a whole documentary on the subject that is just plain dumb. Anyway, people can express their thoughts, it's based on feedback that we can decide if we are on the right track or have been misled. I once (as a kid) had a theory that Jesus was an alien and that that would explain the miracles and so forth. I exposed it to an adult astronomer friend and he said BS and I took the time to think things over and came to the same conclusion and dropped it completely, saved me a lot of time.

Anyway, there are a number of positive issues just in the election of Obama. Before the election months ago, I was quite worried, thinking that the Democrats were committing political suicide by placing either a woman or a black man with Muslim sounding names as options for presidency. I am glad that I was proven wrong and the US was more mature than I ever expected. On the other hand, no longer will we have to hear the rant of the black people being oppressed and so on, as now there is a clear sign that that is no longer the case. Maybe this will help most US citizens work in a more united fashion.

People outside the US once again feel a bit more respect for it all, it's a matter of showing that the respect is well placed and I hope Obama will make it clear that it is deserved and can be even more deserving (so I hope).

Just because a few people are commenting on a general subject does not make this forum political, people are more than Puerto Vallarta and superficial subjects... no? :D

Greetings

Mogens

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2009-01-24T14:12:332009-01-24T14:12:33 https://www.puertovallarta.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16001&p=97622#p97622 <![CDATA[Sour Grapes And Whiners]]>

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2009-01-24T05:10:382009-01-24T05:10:38 https://www.puertovallarta.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16001&p=97621#p97621 <![CDATA[Congratulations USA!]]> Statistics:Posted by mikeypv — Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:10 am


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2009-01-24T02:21:362009-01-24T02:21:36 https://www.puertovallarta.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16001&p=97619#p97619 <![CDATA[Congratulations USA!]]> think. And as long as we have racism, bigotry, jealousy, and just plain stupidity some people will promote their warped beliefs, and others who share similar beliefs or are easily swayed will choose to follow them. IF their country allows freedom of expression and belief they will be allowed to go through all the books in the libraries, read all the magazines, search everything on the 'net' and find every one of these theories no matter how weird and complicated they may be. You can find such individuals alone, or even in groups... some even wear matching uniforms such as white sheets, pointy caps, to identify each other. Ultimately they share the same mentality of the person that has no problem yelling fire in a crowded theater, or hiding behind women and children while carrying suicide body packs.

I share Buffet06's view that the U.S. (Canada as well) would not, could not, and will not ever do something like DugChan has described to its people. I am sure that he is only sharing with us items of interest that he has found somewhere on the net. There are enough people all over the earth who hate Western freedoms and practices and the subsequent spread of that message so much that they are willing to perpetrate all those heinous things on their own.

The morality of a countries citizenry is shaped by many things including culture, heritage, the laws, and most of all our education system. Our Media is to large, complex and too competitive to ever agree to totally conceal a sinister act by anyone, and there is always someone working within government that would spill the beans. That is not to say that situations everywhere could not be improved.

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Look up bilderberg group
Look up "who owns the federal reserve?"-, or did you think the US did?

Lloyd Robertson openly asked "is global domination their ultimate goal?"

Elected MP Pat Martin says " I'm not comfortable with that at all,who elected these people to run the planet

1)His campaign promise of pulling the troops out of Iraq by 2011 quickly changed to -we'll stay until the job is done- after he was elected

2) Immediately after being elected he put up his "change " website in which he stated he would like a mandatory service of 50 hours a year from middle and high school kids and 100 hours from college kids.After the instant backlash he changed the wording to would like to see them volounteer it.And his minions quickly denied it ever saying that.

there was a guy back in the 30's that had a youth brigade. Remember that?

3) Where is all this change? He appointed the same warmongers that have been floating around the whitehouse for years.
He appointed a zionist jew as the head of whitehouse staff who has openly stated his loyalty to Isreal above all.

Look up -"whitehouse zionist jew" on google and get the lowdown on Rahm Emanuel. In fact the day after his appointment the Isreal papers claimed it a victory to have "their man" running the whitehouse. Of course that didn't make it to our news

Did you know that the US gives between 3-$5 billion a year to Isreal?
Who then takes 400-$600 million of it and in turn pays off these same congressmen

Did you know that the US has vetoed over 40 UN sanctions against Isreal?

4) He is currently doing away with the national guard and training 20,000 troops for deployment in the US in violation of the Posse Comitatus Act, to deal with terrorism and "civil unrest"

look up 20,000 troops for deployment on US soil
Look up Fema detention camps.


Lets see what he does in regards to the SPP
What is the SPP? The Security and Prosperity partnership
Look it up, also the North American Union,also the Amero, also the Trans Texas Corridor

Ihope I am wrong and would love to come back and say I was a year from now,but I see him doing nothing but turning the US into a socialist military complex.

I was never a tinfoil hat guy until I gave up watching tv in late 2007 and spent the 3 hours a night researching instead of American Idol.

If people want to immediately dismiss this as hogwash, I understand fully and even backed Bush's actions and believed terrorists did 9/11

Look up Andreas Von Bulow, he was with the German government for years and put out a book "the CIA and 9/11

the former and most popular Italian president ever has openly stated
"the whole european community has known 9/11 was an inside job for years"

who runs the United States? Look up Lindsay Williams, he put out a book in the 70's called the non energy crisis

He also put out a video in june 2008 saying the price of oil would drop below $50 by the time Obama was elected. It was $140 a barrel when he claimed this.

Look up the Aaron Russo interview

All I can say again is I hope I am wrong,but people need to know what is really going on behind the scenes.
I am proud that in the documentary "end game" Canadians have a large percentage of people that know what is going on

Like former Governer Jesse Ventura says "some democracy, we get one more choice than communism" He put out a book "don't start the revolution without me"

I hope Ron Paul gets in, in 4 years, they falsefied the polls so he dropped out,but he had more support and donations from the military than ALL other people running combined

Again I hope you people are right and I am wrong.I guess we will see in time.And please don't ban me for this,I am not trying to insult or belittle anyone,but seeing as the subject was brought up I had to state a few of my opinions on the subject, and maybe give a few folks food for thought.

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2009-01-22T20:28:222009-01-22T20:28:22 https://www.puertovallarta.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16001&p=97579#p97579 <![CDATA[President Obama]]> since he won fair and square I will back him all the way. No snide
remarks or racial jokes. The presidency is the toughest job in the world
and he needed our help and loyalty.
Mogens, your hindsight is poor. G W Bush has a ways to go to beat
President Carter.

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I have to agree with you Chuck. Obama and his admin has alot of work to do, I think Obama is being treated more like a celebrity rather a leader and it will only put more pressure on him. He does give most people, i would think, hope. He speaks with confidence, but when is the last time a President stood up before the world and appeared unsure of himself? NEVER. not even Bush was unsure of himself. So, it's time to cut the talk and start to walk the walk. I am an Obama supporter and I would never bash Bush, I think he did what he thought he had to do. He was our leader for 8 years and because i love this country (sound the drums and horns) I stood behind him, just like i will stand behind Obama.

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2009-01-21T22:46:242009-01-21T22:46:24 https://www.puertovallarta.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16001&p=97548#p97548 <![CDATA[Re: Congratulations USA!]]>
I think Obama is the cat's meow... :) He is a very charismatic and charming man who not only writes (with help) good speeches but also knows how to deliver them..
It has been a long time since a politician has stirred up so much enthusiasm from the young the elderly and from all races...

The excitement Obama is bringing to the political scene is a very good thing..

When I was a young lady I remember a spirited charismatic man arriving on the Canadian Political scene..
Although I never voted for the man.. I Did not agree with all of the parties political views... Pierre Trudeu did make me sit up and listen and want to use my right to vote .. My right to Vote that so many fought and died for ..

Good news is that
Barack Obama's candidacy pushed voter turnout in this year's elections to the highest level in 40 years.

How fun it is going to be to watch Obama and his family
Classy
At Last
Beyonce At Last (Barack & Michelle Obama First Dance)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un_YHXoLwAs

The Speech

http://WWW.msnbc.msn.Com/id/28751183#storyContinued

I like this review of Obama's speech
Hard Truths at the Outset


By David Ignatius
http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourworld/poli ... utset.html
Yes..Congratulations USA! :)

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